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On July 14th, some of our members attended a seminar on Red fishing.
    Below is a outline of some of the information presented.

Redfish Seminar by Eric Holstman

Blindcasting

I leave no detail overlooked when blindcasting and sightfishing for redfish. Meticulous preparation and research. I believe this dramatically increases my odds at catching good numbers of redfish.

Areas:

Summer/early Fall- Santa Rosa Sound on the north side. Between broken down docks. High tide closer to the bank and on low tide off the bank from the middle to the end of the docks.

Southside of sound near Opal Beach and grass flats in the surrounding areas.

Big Lagoon- on the south around Redfish Pt. and behind Ft. McRae in the no-motor pond.

Late fall/winter- Northern bay systems of Escambia, Blackwater and East. These are the best redfish habitats in our area. Great on low tides.

Look for large schools of larger mullet which disturb the bottom. Redfish will follow the mullet and look for shrimp and crabs kicked up by these mullet.

Average depths are between 1-3 feet of water.

Approach your area very quietly shutting off your large engine well ahead of your destination. No noise inside boat, turn off baitwell, bottomfinder and secure lose cans and everything that may hit the deck. Walk quietly and off the hatches. The noise is amplified 100x’s underwater and will alert fish within 500 yds of your presence.

Try to set up with the wind and sun. Less bow slap and better ability to see redfish and mullet. Casting with the wind will produce larger casts and, in turn, more redfish.

Top artificial baits including Gulp 5" Jerkshads, Gulp 3’ Shrimp in any color, Zoom 4" Baby Bass, slow rolled Johnson Gold Spoons in 1/8-1/4oz., Mirrodine 17-MR #18 and #21 with green and black backs, sometimes small inline spinnerbaits slowly rolled as well.

Not much action with topwater or hard subsurface plugs. If you do want to use topwater, small Skitterwalks are my choice. Work them slowly(slower than for trout.)

Long 10-20# fluorocarbon leaders connected directly to my mainline. I like leaders between 3-4.5 feet long. The farther away from the braid or mono the better. Often times the braid is actually out of the water in shallow water.

Sharp hooks on weedless hooks, jigheads, spoons and other baits. Carry a hook sharpener

Drifting or slowing trolling motoring is the best technique. Casting inside and outside schools of mullet. Also casting to sand holes, sawgrass banks, creek mouths and areas with known mud bottom are great ideas.

Often times these redfish will gather in similar areas and a pattern can be discovered. 20 feet off the bank, points, right on the sawgrass on high tide, 100 feet of the bank on low tides

When a redfish is seen or hooked, deploy your Power-Pole to keep you off a potential school and to effective fight your fish. It is also a great tool to stakeout on a point, creek mouth or proven productive area especially in the wind and heavy current.

Sightfishing

Where I sightfish:

1. Sound, upper bays, East Bay, Blackwater, Escambia Bay. West Bay and Choctawhatchee(Hogtown) are also excellent for traveling anglers. Talk about spring, summer, fall and winter.

Once you have found areas that have lots of redfish, you can get a little more fancy by sightfishing these redfish. Again, quietly and methodically. Take your time. Very slow trolling is fine but pushpoling is the best and most successful method.

Elevation, clear water, good polarized sunglasses, sunlight and accurate casting is the key. Wear light colored clothing, light blue, white, gray. Never orange or red. They can see you!!

Try to key in on leeward or wind protected banks, ponds, etc. The fish are easier to see and redfish tend to like slick and calm banks.

In low conditions and early morning hours, I am looking to disturbance on the water in forms of tailing fish, waking fish and feeding fish. Mullet will also cause disturbance and always cast into mullet. Mullet and redfish tailing and wakes are very different.

In sunny and high light conditions, I am actually looking for fish.

Again, wind and sun to your back. Look as far as possible and try to see the fish before he sees you.

Best baits for sightfishing include Gulp shrimp and crabs, Jerkshad and Baby Bass will also work. Spoons can be difficult. Live shrimp and bull minnows can be used when fish are very difficult to catch.

Place the bait 5-10 feet in the direction the fish is facing and try to get his attention with slow pops, then let the bait sit when the fish move towards the bait. Watch for the vacuum!! Set the hook.

If he refuses, hit him again. If a fish sees you and spooks a bit, let him swim to just out of sight and cast into that direct. Often times the fish maybe heading back to a school of redfish or will regained his comfort level.

Use the Power-Pole to target tailing or groups of redfish so that the wind or current doesn’t have you running over the fish. If you do spook a school of fish, stake down. These fish will return to that location and can be seen from their wakes. Cast into the direction the fish exited and maybe deadstick a Shrimp.

Power-Pole Uses:

Ability to stop in the wind and current and not run over fish.

Enables and enhances one’s ability to fight a fish and the other angler throw a bait.

Enables a slow and method approach to fan casting very productive areas.

Fantastic tool for wadefishing.

Other uses include at the boatramp, docking and safety(remote) if you fall out of the boat.

For Sale

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Walt Fink and Greg Hall fished Big Lagoon 5-27-2008 and gave the following report:

We fished from 7:00 to noon on a Blue Bird day on Langley Flats with gentle breezes, until about ten o'clock. Fish were all over and hungry.  We caught Specks, Bluefish, and one Pompano. Greg fought and lost one fish that weighed at least thirty pounds, a Jack Crevalle.
Just like living in a beer commercial, another perfect day in paradise.

Grady Eaton sent us the following report for Wednesday May 21st.

             "My host and I ventured forth yesterday from Midway and caught a couple of      nice slot reds. We started to encounter High winds and Heavy Seas so we loaded up earlier than we would have.
Grady"

Another good reason (as if we need one) to lust over Angelina Jolie.

The Club has re-established the position of "Public Relations Liaison". Bob Kingry has volunteered to accept the position and increase the publicity for the Club.

Yale Coleman has generated a large chart indicating prime fishing spots at various seasons of the year. The chart can only be an aid if we all help by informing Yale of some of our "secret" areas that have produced in the past. New comers to Speck fishing would greatly appreciate the information.

Starting with the 2009 season, all tournaments will end at 11:00 AM. Starting time will remain at one-half hour prior to published sunrise. This should alleviate some of the problems with heat in the summer and maybe ease some of the congestion at the boat ramps that occur at noon.

Note that these rules took effect on July 1 2007

The club has voted to ban the act of culling during our scheduled tournaments. This was acted upon due in part to the following information. Remember that even if you do not feel that culling is wrong, it is a state law, and as such the club will abide by the rule.

There has been a rash of information concerning the act of "culling" Redfish during a tournament. The FWC has determined that it is illegal to cull fish. I requested them to explain how they arrived at that conclusion and would the rule apply to Speckled Trout. I was sent the following e-mail.

From: "Marine" MARINE@fwc.state.fl.us
To: walterfink@cox.net
Cc: "Marine" MARINE@fwc.state.fl.us
Subject: FW: E-Mail From FWC Web Site

Date: Thursday, October 02, 2003 7:33 AM

Mr. Fink,

Thank you for your e-mail to the Division of Marine Fisheries. I am sorry for the delay in the response, but I have been out of the office.

You can find the complete regulations for regulated species (Title 68B Florida Administrative Code) by using this link: http://marinefisheries.org/FWC68B.htm and finding corresponding rules for the fish of question (bag limits, size limits, etc.).

(2) "Harvest" means the catching or taking of a fish by any means whatsoever, followed by a reduction of such fish to possession. Fish that are caught but immediately returned to the water free, alive and unharmed are not harvested. In addition, temporary possession of a fish for the purpose of measuring it to determine compliance with the minimum or maximum size requirements of this chapter shall not constitute harvesting such fish, provided that it is measured immediately after taking, and immediately returned to the water free, alive, and unharmed if undersize or oversize.

(1) Bag Limits - For example, red drum (redfish). No person shall harvest more than one native redfish per day, nor possess more than one native redfish while in, on, or above the waters of the state or on any dock, pier, bridge, beach, or other fishing site adjacent to such waters. Elsewhere, no person shall possess more than two native redfish at any time.

The definition of possession and its use in the Bag Limit language prohibits culling or high grading redfish. Possession is basically anything other than immediate release or time needed to determine the size of the fish. Once you put a fish in your live well, you have taken possession of that fish. Trading that fish out for another fish means that you have now possessed 2 fish, which exceeds the daily bag limit for redfish. Any person doing this, tournament competitor or otherwise, is violating the regulations.

Thank you for your inquiry about this subject. I hope the information I have provided will be useful. If you have any further questions or comments regarding culling, please direct them to Andy Strelcheck at (850) 488-6058 ext. 214.

Thank you,

Larame Ferry
Florida Fish & Wildlife Conservation Commission
Division of Marine Fisheries
(850) 488-6058

Their survey is located on the web site: http://floridaconservation.org/marine/reddrum_survey.htm
you should participate in it and give them your thoughts.

Seatrout Worms
The presence of parasites is no reason not to eat fish.

Although not widely discussed, most animals, including fish, are host to a variety of parasites.

Parasites rarely kill the host fish, but may weaken individuals or make consumption of the flesh less appealing. One of the most-common parasites seen locally is the so-called spaghetti worm, found in spotted seatrout. This white worm is really the larval stage of a tapeworm that infests sharks. As with many other parasites, the life cycle of this worm is amazingly complicated.

The adult tapeworm is up to eight inches long and lives in the guts of sharks. Like other tapeworms, it attaches to the stomach with sharp hooks and takes nourishment from the host. Eggs from the adult worm are passed into seawater where they hatch into tiny free-swimming larvae. If the larvae are eaten by a small shrimp-like animal called a copepod, the larvae transform into the next life stage. The copepod in turn is eaten by baitfish, which is then eaten by spotted seatrout. Once the larval worm is in the trout, it burrows from the digestive tract into the trout's flesh. Here it may live for several years. The life cycle is completed when a shark eats the trout and becomes host to the adult worm.

Spotted seatrout seem to develop a resistance to the worm which limits the amount of infestation. Studies have shown that in general, large, older fish have no more worms than small, younger fish. Fish from high-salinity waters often have more worms than those from low-salinity waters. Generally, spotted seatrout only have two to four worms per fish, but in filleting the fish, the worms are cut to pieces, giving the appearance of many more worms.

While the worms are not appealing, there is no reason not to eat the fish. The worms may be removed easily. Many fishermen do not even bother. The worms are killed by cooking and become unnoticeable. For those who need further reassurance, there is no record of human infection from this parasite.

Fish in general are host to many different kinds of parasites. Only a few can be transmitted to humans. Nevertheless, it is always a good practice to cook fish, despite the recent interest in eating raw fish.


WARNING !
fishing pox
Very Contagious to Adult Males

SYMPTOMS - - Continual complaint as to need for fresh air, sunshine and relaxation. Patient has blank expression, sometimes deaf to wife and kids. Has no taste for work of any kind. Frequent checking of tackle catalogues. Hangs out in Sporting Goods Stores longer than usual. Secret night phone calls to fishing pals. Mumbles to self. Lies to everyone. NO KNOWN CURE.

TREATMENT - - Medication is useless. Disease is not fatal. Victim should go fishing as often as possible with the Pensacola Speckled Trout Club.

Released Fish Survive

A study of the mortality of spotted Seatrout caught and released using sportfishing tackle shows a survival rate of just over 96 percent. The study, conducted in 2001, was published recently by the University of Southern Mississippi's Center for Fisheries Research and Development, in Ocean Springs.
"These fish were landed in a manner consistent with that of the average angler: Fish were handled without gloves or a towel, and hooks were removed by hand or with pliers," according to the report. In fact, several of the fish were accidentally dropped on the deck without apparent postrelease harm.
Researchers placed all released trout in a holding tank without food - further suggesting a "worst-case scenario" that fish might experience after release - and, after three days, checked, weighed and measured them before releasing them into the wild.
Concern for the many undersized trout (less than 14 inches) that anglers in the state release helped prompt the study. Of 78 sublegal trout, only three died in captivity.
Another surprise: several fish had been gut hooked and the line cut, leaving the hook in the fish, and all survived.